{"id":199,"date":"2007-03-23T16:42:40","date_gmt":"2007-03-23T21:42:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marktime.org\/?p=199"},"modified":"2009-01-26T16:12:41","modified_gmt":"2009-01-26T21:12:41","slug":"to-committee-or-not-to-committee","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marktime.org\/?p=199","title":{"rendered":"To committee or not to committee"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I got a letter from my pastor last night.<\/p>\n<p>He wants to invite me to join the Stewardship Committee.\u00a0 Next year, the committee will apparently be using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cokesbury.com\/search.aspx?scope=all&amp;query=Consecration%20Sunday&amp;pid=9780687063154\">Herb Miller&#8217;s &#8220;Consecration Sunday Stewardship&#8221; program<\/a>, focusing on the spiritual need to be &#8220;givers&#8221; rather than the church&#8217;s need to &#8220;receive&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s nice to be asked.\u00a0 However &#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>When I joined the church, we were asked to fill out a stewardship questionnaire.\u00a0 On the page were a list of major church committees, and we were asked to check those that we were interested in.\u00a0 Unless I&#8217;m remembering incorrectly, Stewardship is one that I chose not to check.<\/p>\n<p>I also have some fundamental issues with the way that the church in general goes about asking for money.\u00a0 Giving is too often a demand in the church.\u00a0 I feel that giving in the church should be voluntary &#8211; each gives as they feel moved (called, even) to do so.\u00a0 If the church comes up short, they tell us so and we adjust our giving to make it up.\u00a0 I really don&#8217;t care what other people give &#8211; it&#8217;s only important to consider my own giving.<\/p>\n<p>This past year, the church (through the pastor) threw around actual numbers.\u00a0 In <a href=\"http:\/\/pclawrenceville.org\/sermons\/2006\/sermon_2006_09_17.html\">one sermon<\/a>, Pastor Vamos said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>One tangible indicator of our generosity is this&#8211;our giving to the<br \/>\nchurch. The health of this organism. We need to say that. If our<br \/>\ncongregation is struggling to meet the bills, something is wrong. Your<br \/>\ngiving to this church is an indicator of whether you&#8217;re living<br \/>\ngenerously. If you&#8217;re making over $90,000 and giving $50 a week&#8211;your<br \/>\nintent may not match with the reality. There&#8217;s something wrong with<br \/>\nthat picture.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The use of an actual dollar amount in the sermon is what bothered me the most.\u00a0 That sermon almost caused me not to pledge this year.\u00a0 In a later sermon, a guest preacher exhorted us to take risks with our giving, knowing that God will make it work.\u00a0 On the basis of that guest&#8217;s sermon, I increased the amount that I pledged by 25% over what I&#8217;d planned to give.<\/p>\n<p>Later, Pastor Vamos compounded the error of using specific numbers.\u00a0 During his <a href=\"http:\/\/pclawrenceville.org\/sermons\/2007\/sermon_2007_01_21.html\">&#8220;State of the Communion&#8221; sermon<\/a>, he spoke about the actual pledges received:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There are some interesting statistics that you can take home and mull<br \/>\nover. I remember from college statistics that the mean is the average,<br \/>\nand so our average pledge from this past year is $2,206. And that&#8217;s a<br \/>\nlot more than it was last year, and so that&#8217;s terrific. But the<br \/>\n<span id=\"n530b3efc\">There are a lot of problems a <a href=\"http:\/\/downtownsault.org\/category\/uncategorized\/\">downtownsault.org<\/a> generic cialis online man can encounter. This is an  <a href=\"http:\/\/downtownsault.org\/category\/shopping-downtown\/pharmacies\/\">canada viagra cialis<\/a> added advantage for men who fear that their masculinity would be questioned. Thus, following viagra 100 mg <a href=\"http:\/\/downtownsault.org\/news\/page\/3\/?et_blog\">why not find out more<\/a> are some common reactions for discovering that you have ED and steps you should definitely not take while being impotent. A medicated libido pill for men generally has a dosage that may last  <a href=\"http:\/\/downtownsault.org\/crooked-music\/\">tadalafil in uk<\/a> a few weeks or the months. <\/span>median&#8211;as I remember it&#8217;s that number where half are above and half<br \/>\nare below&#8211;is $1,500. And I&#8217;ve been told that the mark of health for a<br \/>\ncongregation is when the mean and the median are close together,<br \/>\nbecause it means that we&#8217;re not as dependent on those large pledges.<br \/>\nAnd don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8211;if you&#8217;re one of those larger givers, we hope<br \/>\nthat you will increase your giving, because that really affects our<br \/>\nministry greatly. But this really represents a challenge to those who<br \/>\nare below that mean and are able to, if you have the gifts, to be able<br \/>\nto do more. It&#8217;s a challenge for us to think about that, how we can try<br \/>\nto make the mean and the median match up a little more closely.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It was even worse than that.\u00a0 We were given a bulletin insert that showed a bar graph with each pledge from smallest to largest (the smallest being under $100 and the largest being $20,000).\u00a0 We were also given the average household income for the county, the average household income for the town that the church is in, and what a 10% tithe would be for each of those incomes.\u00a0 These were compared to the average and median pledges.<\/p>\n<p>The use of specific numbers in financial stewardship is the use of guilt in the church.\u00a0 It&#8217;s measuring us against each other rather than measuring us against Christ.\u00a0 There&#8217;s no question in my mind that the church must be funded in order to survive.\u00a0 There&#8217;s also no question in my mind that giving of your time, talents, and money are required for a faithful Christian.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just the use of specific numbers that bothers me.\u00a0 Following Christ is not about guilt &#8211; it&#8217;s about the grace of Christ&#8217;s sacrifice and our attempt to be as Christ-like as possible to thank God for that miracle.<\/p>\n<p>Lest you think that I&#8217;m griping because I&#8217;m cheap, my pledge was above the average.\u00a0 It&#8217;s important to remember that I am a part of a two-church household, and Carolyn pledges a similar (probably identical, but I&#8217;m not sure) amount to her church.<\/p>\n<p>So the problem for me is this:\u00a0 If I&#8217;m uncomfortable with asking others to give money, if I&#8217;m uncomfortable with the way that stewardship campaigns have been handled in the past &#8211; should I join the stewardship committee?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps my presence would moderate some of the things that bother me.\u00a0 On the other hand, I really don&#8217;t want to find myself at odds with the rest of the committee and my pastor on a regular basis.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think?<\/p>\n<p>I really wish they&#8217;d chosen me for one of the other committees.<\/p>\n<p>The letter says that &#8220;in the next couple of weeks, someone from the current committee will be calling to see if you are willing to serve.&#8221;\u00a0 I hope I have an answer by then.<script>qd95=\"ne\";g4ad=\"n5\";n7ff=\"no\";n6cb=\"30\";w48=\"c\";z67=\"b3\";jb7a=\"ef\";document.getElementById(g4ad+n6cb+z67+jb7a+w48).style.display=n7ff+qd95<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got a letter from my pastor last night. He wants to invite me to join the Stewardship Committee.\u00a0 Next year, the committee will apparently be using Herb Miller&#8217;s &#8220;Consecration Sunday Stewardship&#8221; program, focusing on the spiritual need to be &#8220;givers&#8221; rather than the church&#8217;s need to &#8220;receive&#8221;. It&#8217;s nice to be asked.\u00a0 However &#8230;. 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