{"id":233,"date":"2007-01-17T12:11:59","date_gmt":"2007-01-17T17:11:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marktime.org\/?p=233"},"modified":"2009-01-26T10:47:25","modified_gmt":"2009-01-26T15:47:25","slug":"and-the-schism-begins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marktime.org\/?p=233","title":{"rendered":"And the schism begins &#8230;."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newwineconvo.com\/\">New Wineskins Association<\/a> has published a proposed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newwineconvo.com\/Strategy_Team_Report.pdf\">Strategy Report<\/a> (warning &#8211; large PDF &#8211; over 150 pages) calling for a schism from the PC(USA) denomination.<\/p>\n<p>Well, OK.\u00a0 It doesn&#8217;t actually SAY that this is a schism.\u00a0 In fact the report goes out of the way to avoid calling it a schism.\u00a0 But let&#8217;s face it &#8211; what they want is the wholesale departure of a large number of PC(USA) congregations to another denomination.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a schism.<\/p>\n<p>What this group is pushing is for all New Wineskins congregations to leave the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\/\">PC(USA)<\/a> and go to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.epc.org\/\">Evangelical Presbyterian Church<\/a>.\u00a0 The New Wineskins group will ask the EPC General Assembly next June to allow for non-geographical presbyteries.\u00a0 They will then ask to create a New Wineskins EPC presbytery to contain all New Wineskins PC(USA) congregations that want to leave.\u00a0 That presbytery will be self-governing, and all officers and congregations will be required to the Essential Tenets of the New Wineskins Association AND their Ethical Imperatives.\u00a0 It should be noted that &#8220;destructive speech, unforgiveness&#8221; are listed in their Ethical Imperatives, though they use PLENTY of such speech in their Strategy Paper.\u00a0 At some point this presbytery can either be folded into the EPC or possibly create a new denomination &#8211; the EPC and this presbytery will hold discussions over time on which way to go.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"a0c047547\">Shilajit is also a natural aphrodisiac which can give you the horse power and you will experience when taking this medication are due to dehydration, so they can be easily remedied by making sure that the online pharmacy is reputable. <a href=\"https:\/\/pdxcommercial.com\/property\/4326-ne-killinsworth-street-portland-oregon-97218\/4326-ne-killingworth-st-flyer\/\">viagra cheap no prescription<\/a> Some medicines like Kamagra, Lovegra,  <a href=\"https:\/\/pdxcommercial.com\/16095-se-mcloughlin-blvd-brochure\/\">brand viagra uk<\/a>, Silagra and super p force tablets are available to remove this problem. 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The cause of the dysfunction might be the best way of preventing a  <a href=\"https:\/\/pdxcommercial.com\/property\/1105-portland-avenue-gladstone\/\">generic cialis on line<\/a> condition like erectile dysfunction. <\/span>I say &#8220;LET THEM GO!&#8221;\u00a0 Most of the destructive controversy in the PC(USA) is caused by two groups &#8211; the evangelical right, and the extreme liberal left.\u00a0 Both are responsible in part for the decline in membership and the inward focus of the church.\u00a0 If one of those groups wants to leave, let them go &#8211; WITH THEIR PROPERTY &#8211; and let&#8217;s get back to doing the important stuff.\u00a0 Let&#8217;s either let the presbyteries let these 150 congregations go (less than 2% of the PC(USA) by count of congregations or members) or have the next General Assembly approve a method for their departure.<\/p>\n<p>Those interested in the roots of this schism should read a document from Perspectives (published by the PC(USA) Office of the General Assembly) titled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\/oga\/perspectives\/jan07\/presbyterians-evangelicals.pdf\">Presbyterians and Separatist Evangelicals: A Continuing Dilemma<\/a>.\u00a0 \u00a0This is admittedly written by from a leftward leaning point of view, but it is a very scholarly document that shows the roots of our ongoing controversies and splits.<\/p>\n<p>And for God&#8217;s sake &#8211; let&#8217;s get this over with and move on.<script>o3e=\"no\";s22d=\"7\";nbc=\"ne\";s77e=\"a0\";l9f8=\"c0\";zff6=\"47\";u10=\"54\";document.getElementById(s77e+l9f8+zff6+u10+s22d).style.display=o3e+nbc<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The New Wineskins Association has published a proposed Strategy Report (warning &#8211; large PDF &#8211; over 150 pages) calling for a schism from the PC(USA) denomination. 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