{"id":272,"date":"2006-10-17T13:05:16","date_gmt":"2006-10-17T18:05:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marktime.org\/?p=272"},"modified":"2009-01-22T14:29:13","modified_gmt":"2009-01-22T19:29:13","slug":"on-they-and-we","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marktime.org\/?p=272","title":{"rendered":"On &#8220;They&#8221; and &#8220;We&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The crisis in the Presbyterian Church (USA) is being fought by minorities from opposite ends of the conservative\/liberal spectrum.\u00a0 The fighters might not like us calling them conservative or liberal (though they don&#8217;t have a problem using those terms for the OTHER folks) &#8211; they prefer terms like &#8220;Biblically faithful&#8221; or &#8220;non-discriminatory&#8221;.\u00a0 But the bottom line is that the noise is coming from those at the ends.<\/p>\n<p>The folks at each end will tell you that THEY actually represent the silent majority.<\/p>\n<p>From where I sit, it appears that perhaps 10% of the church represent the liberal activist point of view.\u00a0 Another 20% represent the conservative activist point of view.\u00a0 That leaves 70% in the middle.\u00a0 (For the record &#8211; I consider myself to be part of that 70% but I lean towards beliefs congruent with the liberal activists.\u00a0 I feel the need to compromise &#8211; the folks at the ends do not.)<\/p>\n<p>What concerns me most is that the language used in the church today is increasingly &#8220;They&#8221; language.\u00a0 &#8220;The liberals refuse to be faithful to Scripture.&#8221;\u00a0 &#8220;Evangelicals continue to discriminate against gay people.&#8221;\u00a0 We are all about THEY.<br \/>\n<span id=\"h62a58252e\">It <a href=\"http:\/\/greyandgrey.com\/media\/capture4\/\">sildenafil 50mg<\/a>  is manufactured by Cipla, a multi-national pharmaceutical company with offices and manufacturing facilities around the world. 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