3 Comments on Saudi Arabia – our enemy

Rusty Shackleford on Fri, 18th Jun 2004 4:12 pm


I agree with the sentiments, just not sure of its feasibility.

For one, we can’t control the militants in Iraq very well on our own. How could we control a population (in Saudi Arabia) with an even larger percentage of militants?

Another thing, the Saudi’s did not even begin to take terrorism seriously until late last year. When they finally became the targets too.

We can only hope that they will help us in the WOT, not because they are our friends, but now that they are also the target we have mutual interests in seeing al Qaeda destrroyed.

Backcountry Conservative on Fri, 18th Jun 2004 6:55 pm


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former company man on Sat, 30th Apr 2005 10:48 am


let me state facts… you draw conclusions… i’m not sure what it means, but here are consistencies, inconsistencies, and correlations.

#1. Beheadings: Nick Berg, Daniel Pearl, (both jewish) Berg held by f.b.i. captured soon after release. had passport to israel. Daniel Pearl, only two generations removed from israel. Insurgent standing at far left in Nick Berg video appears to be standing at parade rest.

Theory: Berg and Pearl were spies for Israel. Beheadings draw much publicity while costing few lives. Insurgents justify continued U.S. presence in iraq.

Sept. 11 was carried out by mostly Saudi Arabian Natives. Orchestrated by Osama bin laden. Osama bin laden living in exile in Afghanistan. Was exiled from Saudi Arabia. The trouble makers all come from Saudi Arabia. When was the last time you heard of a terror attack in Saudi Arabia? Kobar Towers, but being a military installation was therefore U.S. soil and wasn’t an attack against Saudi Arabia, but rather an attack against the U.S.

Why go to Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia? Because of Osama Bin Laden.
Afghanistan taken. Many tunnels and caves built by the U.S. when russia invaded years ago. Former U.S. command control center. New command control center. Who’s the enemy now??? Saudi Arabia.

Iraq. No Weapons of Mass Destruction. What are the benefits of invading Iraq from economic standpoint. 2nd largest oil supply in world. 1st largest is Saudi Arabia. Why then not attack Saudi Arabia if U.S. needed oil? Because U.S. doesn’t need oil. Who does? China. why? there is no means of waging war without oil or gas. It is impossible to wage war without gas. This is the importance of oil. It isn’t that the U.S. needs it, it is that our enemies do and we are denying them it and thereby preventing them the ability to wage war for lack of gas.

Again, why then not take the largest oil supply in Saudi Arabia instead of the 2nd largest in Iraq? Because Saudi Arabia has the backing of MANY other nations who are legitimate members of the U.N. By seizing that supply we would be disrupting the business of other nations who are legitimate members and they would wage war before they would allow the U.S. to limit their oil / gas/ ability to wage war.

What are benefits of seizing afghanistan if it has no oil?

Ready made command control center. easy to move into Saudi arabia especially by Air. Could launch air strikes easily. hard to invade because of mountains.

what are benefits of seizing control of Iraq?

neutralize oil supply from nations who would wage war. i.e. china. N. Korea.
Also, adjacent to Saudi Arabia. Ready made runways. Easy Air strikes. Easy invasion.

Theory: We have surrounded Saudi Arabia by North and South. Saudi Arabia can either comply and NOT give oil / gas / ability to wage war to nations who would wage it, or they can be exposed as conspirators in the Sept. 11 attack.

Why cover up the FACT that Saudi exiles funded by Some but not All members of Saudi Royal Family orchestrated Sept. 11 attack?

Other legitimate nations of the U.N. i.e. France , Germany, China, Russia, Japan, (these are guesses) are customers of Saudi oil and some are partially dependent on this supply especially in event of war and could not wage war without it.
They would allign against the U.S. if we tried to overtly seize control of saudi oil supply. It’s not that we can’t do it, but it’s that it is easier to surround Saudi Arabia, build solid military force, and dare them to pull that stunt again. In the event that we cannot persuade the Saudi Royal family to limit supplies to nations i.e. china , n. korea who would wage war with U.S. we will invade Saudi Arabia but only as a last ditch effort as we will have to stand off other legitimate friendly nations to protect that supply. So we sit and wait. We observe the Saudis. We limit nations like china and n. korea supply from Saudi arabia and make it up to the saudis by paying more for our oil and using more so that they don’t lose money. HENCE S.U.V.’S AND INFLATED GAS PRICES. BOTH THE U.S. AND ENGLAND HAVE TAKEN THIS POSTURE.

ISRAEL IS A WILD CARD.
CHINA IS AN ENEMY.
N.KOREA IS AN ENEMY.
RUSSIA IS NEUTRAL, BUT IN THE EVENT OF WAR WOULD ALIGN WITH THE U.S. AND ENGLAND. RUSSIA DOES NOT NEED SAUDI OIL SUPPLY TO WAGE WAR.
FRANCE NEEDS SAUDI OIL SUPPLY AND NEEDED IRAQ OIL SUPPLY. FRANCE IS AN ENEMY, BUT IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT. YET, MOST LIKEY ARE PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE TO TERRORISTS.
JAPAN IS AN ALLY. ALL THAT STOPS THE CHINESE FROM INVADING JAPAN AND TAIWAN IS THE UNITED STATES. WE NEVER LEFT JAPAN SINCE WWII. JAPAN IS ACTUALLY A GOVERNMENT HEAVILY DEPENDENT AND INFLUENCED BY THE UNITED STATES.

SOLUTION: COUPE DE’ ETAT OF DISSIDENT ROYAL FAMILY MEMBERS.

PROBLEM: WHO COULD BE TRUSTED TO SUCCEED THE OUSTED. NO ONE. THE SAUDIS HATE US. THEY REALLY DO. ALL OF THEM. THEY HATE US. THERE IS NO CREDIBLE SAUDI LEADER WHO IS AN ALLY OF THE UNITED STATES. THERE IS NO CREDIBLE SUCCESSOR IN THE EVEN OF A COUPE DE’ ETAT IN SAUDI ARABIA.
OUTRIGHT WAR WITH SAUDI ARABIA ENTAILS THE VESTED INTERESTS OF LEGITIMATE AND FRIENDLY U.S. ALLIES.

ANSWER: SURROUND SAUDI ARABIA, ESTABLISH SUBSTANTIAL MILITARY FORCE, SEEK TO LIMIT SUPPLY OF OIL TO N.KOREA AND CHINA THROUGH EXISTING REGIME. IF REGIME DOESN’T COOPERATE, THREATEN TO EXPOSE THEIR OBVIOUS INVOLVEMENT IN SEPT. 11. JUSTIFICATION OF WAR THROUGH U.N. DIVIDE SAUDI ARABIA BETWEEN THE U.S., ENGLAND, JAPAN, AND RUSSIA.

DARE CHINA AND N.KOREA TO MOVE.

NO ONE WILL ALIGN WITH CHINA AND N.KOREA DESPITE THEIR OBVIOUS MILITARY FORCE BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN COMBAT WITHOUT OIL / GAS TO RUN THEIR MILITARY.

PROBLEM: THIS LEAVES CHINA AND N.KOREA ONE OPTION FOR RETALLIATION. NUCLEAR WAR. IT ISN’T A WIN, BECAUSE OF MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION. YET, THE THREAT OF THE END OF THE WORLD IS A MIGHTY ONE. N.KOREAN LEADER KIM JONG ILL IS QUESTIONABLY IRRATIONAL ENOUGH TO RESORT TO NUCLEAR WAR.

ANSWER: COUPE DE’ ETAT THROUGH ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. N.KOREA IS STARVING AS WE SPEAK. ECONOMIC COLLAPSE OF RUSSIA ENDED COLD WAR, YET, RUSSIA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY, BUT IT IS PACKAGED AS IF IT WERE. PRAY FOR REVOLUTION IN N.KOREA.

CHINA WILL NOT MOVE UNLESS U.S. MOVES. CHINA IS CURRENTLY NOT NEGOTIATING ANYTHING WITH THE U.S. AS THEIR ALLIES WITHIN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ARE NOT IN POWER.

CHINA WILL NEGOTIATE WITH A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT IF ELECTED IN NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. YET, A DEMOCRAT WILL BE THWARTED (A LA AL GORE) BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY UNTIL THERE IS ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND POLITICAL REVOLUTION IN N.KOREA.

THIS IS WHY BUSH SAID ABOUT KERRY “WRONG MAN WRONG TIME”

IF THEIR IS ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN N.KOREA, AND POLITICAL REVOLUTION WHICH WOULD ENTAIL A UNIFICATION WITH SOUTH KOREA WITH CURRENT SOUTH KOREAN GOVERNMENT BEING THE SOLE GOVERNMENT OVER ALL OF KOREA,

THEN IT WILL BE POSSIBLE TO ELECT A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT AND BEGIN TALKS / NEGOTIATION / DIPLOMACY WITH CHINA, BUT NOT UNTIL THE N.KOREAN GOVERNMENT HAS COLLAPSED AND THE SOUTH KOREAN GOVERNMENT HAS SUCCEEDED THEM. THIS MAY BE MOST PEACEFULLY ACHIEVED THROUGH ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN N.KOREA AND REVOLUTION.
WITH SOUTH KOREA UNITING WITH N. KOREA AND ACHIEVING SOLE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER.

IF AND ONLY IF N.KOREAN GOVERNMENT COLLAPSES AND SOUTH KOREAN GOVERNMENT ASSUMES CONTROL OVER ALL OF KOREA CAN A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT BE ELECTED IN THE UNITED STATES.

THIS IS WHY THE LAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES WERE COMPROMISED BY THE C.I.A.

IF N.KOREAN GOVERNMENT SUFFERS ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND REVOLUTION AND S.KOREAN GOVERNMENT ASSUMES CONTROL

THEN,
A DEMOCRAT CAN BE ELECTED IN THE UNITED STATES TO THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT.

THEN,
AND ONLY THEN,
CAN DIPLOMACY BE ACHIEVED WITH CHINA.

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